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Zaha Hadid hit back at suggestions she has a reputation for designing expensive buildings when she appeared on Radio 4鈥檚 Desert Island Discs.

鈥淵ou need to invest in the city fabric,鈥� she declared.

Presenter Kirsty Young raised the Tokyo Olympic stadium saga and asked: 鈥淲hat proportion of your work does your company find in the end has to be shelved because there seem to be problems on cost? Because they are expensive buildings to build.鈥�

Hadid ignored the question, saying: 鈥淭he Japan thing is not about cost. I mean that鈥檚 their story but鈥�. My view is that you either think about a building done long term or you do something which you can demolish in 10 years, or maybe 20. I don鈥檛 see the point in doing a project badly, [or doing a project] that has no idea.鈥�

Eight million visitors a year flocked to her practice鈥檚 Dongdaemun Design Plaza in Seoul, she said, which underlined the importance of investing in the quality of public buildings.

Asked what happens when clients quibble over the budget she said: 鈥淵ou can reduce it but you can鈥檛 reduce it by half. You can shave certain things off to make it work.鈥�

She also praised engineers like the late Peter Rice for helping architects realise things they feared might be unbuildable.

Hadid is only the ninth architect to be cast away in the programme鈥檚 74-year history 鈥� and the first woman. Nicholas Grimshaw and Daniel Libeskind were the last two architects to feature, both in 2003 鈥� though landscape architect and critic Charles Jencks was a guest in 2012.

The interview didn鈥檛 break any new ground, ranging from her childhood in Baghdad where she designed her own bedroom, via her spare time - 鈥淚 don鈥檛 relax鈥� - to the ethics of working for oppressive regimes.

Last time she was asked about that on Radio 4 鈥� on the Today programme in September 鈥� she responded testily and eventually terminated the interview. This time she acknowledged that 鈥渋t does鈥� concern her, before re-stating her argument that nothing will change in countries with unpalatable governments unless architects make positive cultural contributions.

Young also raised the old chestnut of Hadid鈥檚 鈥渢ough鈥� reputation which she dismissed as 鈥渘onsense鈥�, suggesting people misinterpreted her failure to 鈥渙verdo the flattery鈥� as rudeness. Instead she said she was 鈥渢aken advantage of all the time鈥� because she was 鈥渢oo nice鈥�.

• The programme will be repeated on Friday morning and is available on iPlayer.