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鈥淲e鈥檝e seen Jeremy twice.鈥� In this case the Jeremy in question happens to be Jeremy Hunt. And 鈥渢wice鈥� refers to the number of meetings that Mark Reynolds, as co-chair of the Construction Leadership Council, has had with the chancellor of the exchequer in the past five months.

Access to the Treasury 鈥� as well as to ministers and senior civil servants in other departments 鈥� reflects the growing influence of the CLC as it seeks to put construction鈥檚 case as a driver for economic growth. 

Today marks an important milestone for the , and Reynolds is keen to talk about the council鈥檚 achievements to date and what it wants from the next government, a very relevant discussion given 好色先生TV鈥檚 focus on the forthcoming general election this year. 

The interview takes place in the heart of the City of London at the head office of Mace, where Reynolds is CEO. Before he dives into the CLC鈥檚 current and future plans, Reynolds takes a moment to look back to what he considers the pivotal moment of change for an organisation formed in 2013.

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That moment, he says, was the shock and disorientating fallout of the pandemic. Reynolds says the CLC was initially, under the leadership of then co-chair Andy Mitchell, planning to make net zero its core theme, before the pandemic hit, prompting it to respond by setting up a covid taskforce.

How CLC stepped up during covid

鈥淭he taskforce came about by literally five or six people emailing each other on a Sunday night saying CLC needs to step up here,鈥� he says.

鈥淎nd fair play to Andy, he responded in a positive way, unlike the way the CLC responded during Carillion, when I felt it should have responded but didn鈥檛.鈥�

The move prompted the CLC to bring in trade associations as supporters to help co-ordinate information to businesses forced to operate in what Reynolds terms 鈥渟urvival mode鈥�.

鈥淭he thing around covid was about site operating procedures, working closely with industry,鈥� says Reynolds. The CLC started holding council meetings and has held 250 in the four years since.

He says that without the support of the Department for Business and Trade (or BEIS as it was then), the CLC would not have 鈥渆xisted as it does today鈥�. 鈥淲e wouldn鈥檛 have the support, the secretariat and the connectivity with government,鈥� he adds.

Access to ministers

These days the CLC has 鈥済ood access鈥� into government departments, Reynolds says 鈥� not just DBT through construction minister Nusrat Ghani, who is the co-chair on the CLC, but also the Department for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities and the Department for Education. This has been bolstered by better access to the Treasury over the past 18 months, including the aforementioned two meetings with Jeremy Hunt.

But to what extent has the CLC actually influenced policy?

Reynolds says the council does 鈥渢ake the credit鈥� for changes of direction by the government in some areas. He says the CLC鈥檚 work with the Treasury secured vital changes to new research and development tax credit rules on subcontracting due to come in this month.

In its biannual report, the CLC says that this saved industry 鈥渉undreds of millions of pounds鈥� and Reynolds says it averted a 鈥渢rain wreck for our sector鈥�.

The CLC has also said it secured commitments from the government in the autumn statement for 拢110m to offset nutrient neutrality, 拢32m to tackle planning backlogs and a two and a half year target for infrastructure projects to get consent.

Reynolds says that he suggested to the Treasury that it publish a consultation on plans for an accelerated planning service for major commercial applications earlier this month. 鈥淎ll we said in the meeting was, 鈥楯eremy give yourself some cover, we need to sort this out. Go out and do a consultation, get the feedback鈥�.鈥�

These areas of progress, while perhaps limited in scope, are all part of a bigger picture 鈥� one where the CLC has larger ambitions. In 2022 the council announced four key priorities for the years ahead: building safety, people and skills, net zero and bio-diversity and next generation delivery.

Last year it appointed four industry sponsors to lead the CLC鈥檚 work in these areas (see box below), each of whom also sits on the CLC board. 

CLC鈥檚 board

Board member	CLC role	Day job
Nusrat Ghani MP	co-chair	construction minister
Mark Reynolds	co-chair	group chief executive, Mace
Richard Robinson	deputy co-Chair	President, UK & Europe, AtkinsR茅alis
Fergus Harradence	board member	deputy director for construction, Department for Business and Trade
Isabel Coman	industry sponsor 鈥� Next Generation Delivery	director engineering and asset strategy, TfL
Stephen Dance	board member	head of infrastructure delivery, Infrastructure and Projects Authority
Matt Palmer	Industry sponsor 鈥� net zero and biodiversity	programme director, Lower Thames Crossing
Nick Roberts	industry sponsor 鈥� people and skills	chief executive, Travis Perkins
Karl Whiteman	industry sponsor 鈥� building safety	divisional managing director, Berkeley Group

Cutting across these key priorities, says Reynolds, is 鈥減lanning, pipeline and people鈥�. Taking these in order, planning remains a large frustration to the co-chair, as indeed it is to many people in the CLC and wider industry.

As an example, Reynolds says: 鈥淲e [Mace] did a brilliant job setting up the prisons programme. We had a programme manager, integrated supply chain鈥� it was with four other contractors [ISG, Kier, Laing O鈥橰ourke and Wates] and the MoJ.

Planning frustrations

鈥淚t was a really good programme. But every prison has been stalled for between one and two years. Why? Because nobody wants a prison in their backyard. It always gets shoved up to the secretary of state, who eventually approves it.鈥�

The CLC will continue to work with the government to bring flexibilities into aspects of the planning system, and Reynolds has a clear idea about what  needs to happen to change the situation.

鈥淲e want to ensure that these big programmes that have been identified fit within the overarching planning constraints of UK plc and also the local planning constraints,鈥� he says. Reynolds believes the National Infrastructure Assessment published by the National Infrastructure Commission last October is a 鈥済reat visionary document鈥� but can鈥檛 easily be delivered because of planning constraints.

鈥淚 think we need a UK national planning authority,鈥� says Reynolds, stressing that this is a personal view. 鈥淚t needs to be arms-length to government and sit within a strategic framework.鈥�

I think we need a UK national planning authority

He bats away the opposing view that such an approach would amount to an errosion of local democracy. 鈥淟ook, nuclear power stations 鈥� are they going to go ahead? Yes they are. So why put ourselves through that?鈥� he asks.

鈥淲hy not just say, 鈥�we鈥檝e got the NIC with a national planning authority, to deal with this big picture stuff鈥�? These programmes need clarity.鈥�

Clarity over, and visibility of, future pipelines of work is a major ask of the CLC. 鈥淚f you can deliver with certainty, you will get investment. People will start investing in skills, plant and equipment,鈥� Reynolds says.

Visibility of pipeline

He was disappointed with last month鈥檚 long-awaited national infrastructure pipeline document, calling it a 鈥渕issed opportunity鈥�. In common with many others in the industry, Reynolds felt it did not have enough in it. He reckons about 鈥溌�30bn of investment was not included鈥�.

Instead the CLC is working on an alternative, aimed at more easily enabling construction firms to see upcoming work. 鈥淲hat鈥檚 the solution? Let鈥檚 work together, using technology, to have an open-source online pipeline tool you can see, and we are developing this at the CLC,鈥� he says.

The third 鈥淧鈥� mentioned by Reynolds is people and skills, and the CLC has been working with the Construction Industry Training Board to deliver 26,000 taster sessions in schools.

Interestingly Reynolds says: 鈥淭he construction sector does not have a recruitment challenge; it has an absorption challenge.鈥� He says that, for every electrical apprenticeship,  there are 200 applicants. 鈥淲e have a great industry, and we have lots of people who want to join it, more than you think.鈥�

There are, however, those 鈥渂lockers in the system鈥� which prevent certainty of work and deter employers from hiring.

On skills, the CLC also launched 30 competence frameworks to help firms and individuals demonstrate compliance with the labyrinthine 好色先生TV Safety Act.

The construction sector does not have a recruitment challenge; it has an absorption challenge

Indeed, more broadly, the bi-annual report demonstrates the sheer amount of work that the CLC has done in the building safety space. Activities have included convening meetings between DLUHC, the BSR and the Office for Product Safety and Standards to raise awareness of building safety issues, delivering workshops and webinars, providing information for industry and helping to shape policies around second staircase requirements and mandatory occurrence reporting for safety issues affecting higher-risk residential buildings.

The CLC has set up a cross-industry 鈥渞egularity clarity鈥� group. Reynolds says: 鈥淚t is working really closely with DLUH and BSR, so that when regulations come out, they are workable or we are giving them feedback. If we go back over the past 18 months, it has been a real challenge.鈥�

Reynolds says that the group now reports to Dame Judith Hackitt鈥檚 industry safety steering group every six months on its progress and 鈥渨here it has needed help, it had help [from the government]鈥�. The ultimate aim is for building safety to become more like health and safety in the way it is understood and adhered to in the industry. But, in the short term, 鈥渨e need to sort out the regulations still鈥�.

Whereas the CLC鈥檚 building safety work has been in large part about achieving regulatory clarity, when it comes to net zero a major emphasis has been on measuring the industry鈥檚 progress. The CLC says 220 companies have now signed up its CO2nstructZero programme, which provides quarterly performance framework updates to help highlight where more action is needed.

If you really want people to decarbonise you don鈥檛 march people up to the top of the hill and then change

From the government, Reynolds鈥� message is again about the need for clarity and certainty. He is critical of the prime minister鈥檚 decision last year to push back the ban on new oil-fired heating systems in homes from 2026 to 2035, and of the decision to delay the ban on new petrol and diesel cars by five years to 2035.

鈥淚f you really want people to decarbonise, you don鈥檛 march people up to the top of the hill and then change. I can understand why it was done in political terms, but that element of change to automotive and to housing isn鈥檛 helpful,鈥� he says

鈥淚t鈥檚 even less helpful for boiler manufacturers, who have geared up to make these heat pumps and put new business plans in place for 2025 or 2026 only for the requirements to be pushed back.鈥�

Pre-election thoughts

So, Reynolds is certainly not afraid to criticise the current government, and in the run-up to the election the CLC is certainly speaking to Labour. Reynolds himself, in his capacity as chief executive of Mace, has joined an expert advisory panel advising Labour鈥檚 review of infrastructure, led by shadow chief secretary to the Treasury Darren Jones.

Regarding the election and the question of who might form the next government, Reynolds, says: 鈥淔rom a CLC perspective, we are going to be agnostic about it of course.

鈥淲e are going to tell them [the parties] what we think they should do. They will decide what they do and put it in their manifestos, we will encourage them to be bold and brave and, if they are not, we will be saying it鈥檚 a missed opportunity.鈥�

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But again, the CLC鈥檚 big vision, as explained by Reynolds, is about 鈥済etting planning right to unleash a lot of things. Get the pipeline right and use the NIC assessment to drive the big changes.鈥�

The themes again and again are around long-term certainty and clarity. This chimes with A Long-Term Plan for Construction, the 好色先生TV the Future Commission鈥檚 report in January, published by 好色先生TV, which called for certainty over the pipeline of infrastructure work.

The CLC has calculated that building confidence in the project pipeline could unlock investment in partnership, skills and innovation and ultimately boost productivity to the tune of an additional 拢45bn of added value to the UK every year.

As the political parties ramp up their election campaigns, the industry will want that investment message to stick. Whoever wins at the polls, the job of the CLC remains to have the ear of those in power 鈥� and to continue to put the case for construction.