Founding partner Dan Fryer tells Dave Rogers about the challenges and opportunities of life as a QS in today鈥檚 turbulent market

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Dan Fryer in his office at Exigere鈥檚 Old Street headquarters

鈥淚t鈥檚 a difficult year to be a QS.鈥 Dan Fryer is speaking against a backdrop of the war in Ukraine and the lingering impact of the pandemic.

鈥淰iability [of schemes] is being squeezed by a number of issues. There hasn鈥檛 been the rental growth and costs have gone up.鈥

Like so many, the founding partner at London cost consultant Exigere is shocked by what is going in Ukraine. From a business perspective, he is worried that the war will put the brakes on the sector鈥檚 ongoing recovery. After two years of covid 鈥 and before that the hiatus caused by Brexit 鈥 the industry was finally looking forward to the return of some sort of normality.

鈥淢aterial cost inflation had largely gone away,鈥 he says. And now? 鈥淗ow long will the major firms be able to absorb the cost inflation?鈥

It was a decade ago this month that Exigere was born. It was originally meant to be called Exigo but the URL 鈥 basically, the website address 鈥 for that name had been taken. 鈥淚t means to be exact and precise,鈥 Fryer says. For a QS, many might call the choice of name fitting.

The best route to start was to go into contracting 鈥 then you know a bit about building

He was not always a QS. While he graduated from London South Bank University with a degree in the subject, he worked part-time at a joinery firm before joining John Mowlem.

鈥淢y dad advised me to go into contracting,鈥 he says. 鈥淗e said the best route to start was to go into contracting 鈥 then you know a bit about building.鈥

His first boss was a QS called Geoff McCullough and he worked for Mowlem鈥檚 London major projects division, which at the time was headed by Steve Smith, who later left to join Alfred McAlpine before heading to Australia in the 2000s to work for Leighton.

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DAN FRYER CV

1997-2001 Graduates from London South Bank University with a QS degree  

1999-2001 Graduate QS at John Mowlem 

2001-12 Associate QS at Davis Langdon, working in London and Doha offices 

2012-present Founding partner, Exigere 

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鈥淚 loved it,鈥 Fryer recalls. 鈥淭he grounding in construction has stood me in good stead. Just seeing things built, living and breathing a building site. Some of the personalities鈥︹ He trails off. 鈥淓arly starts, sometimes early finishes on the golf course if the weather was good.鈥

Schemes he worked on included the Park Lane Marriott hotel in London and the CSC building in Aldershot. 鈥淭he kings of the project were the construction managers. At Aldershot, it was a guy called Mick Charnock 鈥 a great guy.鈥

But, given his background and his heritage 鈥 his late father John set up the Bucknall Austin office in London, later to become part of the enlarged Rider Levett Bucknall 鈥 it was inevitable that he would end up taking a job at a QS firm eventually.

He swapped site cabins for the Kingsway office of Davis Langdon, which had been the QS on the Aldershot scheme. 鈥淭hey offered me a position and I took it.鈥

Fryer adds: 鈥淚t took me quite a bit of time to get used to.鈥 But it turns out he had landed his dream job at Davis Langdon.

鈥淚 never envisaged leaving that business. I think most felt the same way about it. It was incredibly successful in terms of London commercial.鈥

That success inevitably attracted admirers and, in 2010, Aecom paid just over 拢200m for the firm. A change of ownership meant things started to be done differently. 鈥淭here were more procedures and some of the entrepreneurial spirit at DL had been removed.

鈥淭here were a lot of alphabet-soup job titles which London-focused clients didn鈥檛 really care about. A lot of our clients had actively encouraged us to start up.鈥

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So, having worked on such schemes as the South Kensington headquarters of music group EMI, the new London Stock Exchange building at Paternoster Square close to St Paul鈥檚 Cathedral and the award-winning Angel 好色先生TV in Islington, Fryer began to think the unthinkable.

鈥淭he hardest thing about leaving was making the decision, but it was a lot easier than I thought,鈥 he says. 鈥淲orking is only hard when you are not enjoying it.鈥

Others to make the move out of DL/Aecom included Alinea and Core 5, with Fryer teaming up with David Happell and Richard Hopper, who has since retired. 鈥淩ichard and myself had been talking about it for a few months and then we found out Dave was thinking along the same lines.鈥

They set up in March 2012 but had to sit on their hands for a few months while a restricted covenants agreement with Aecom ran down. 鈥淲e spent much of the summer of 2012 watching the Olympics,鈥 he recalls.

But the lure of track and field began to wear off and the firm finally got its own running shoes on that autumn, when the restrictions passed and the firm began to trade properly.

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Fryer with Niall Aitken, another Exigere partner, who joined the firm in 2015 having previously been a partner at Davis Langdon and EC Harris

The first office was a less than promising serviced office in Clerkenwell Road. 鈥淚t was like a large wardrobe with a balcony outside that we weren鈥檛 allowed to use because it was unsafe鈥.

They soon moved to Dufferin Street, on the corner with Whitecross Street near the Barbican, where they spent three years.

鈥淲e were in a basement, it was good fun. It could take 10 but, by the time we moved out, there were 15 of us.鈥

Now billeted in Morelands, the same office building used by architect AHMM and another consultant Jackson Coles, staff numbers are above 60 with turnover this year expected to be around the 拢7m mark.

We have some incredibly talented and ambitious people

Exigere鈥檚 roster of clients includes a who鈥檚 who of blue-chip tech firms such as Google, Facebook, Apple, Twitter and Sky.

鈥淭he bulk of our work is London commercial but we do some resi, life sciences in Oxford and Cambridge as well as healthcare work.鈥

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Last year, the company won this magazine鈥檚 award for consultant of the year for a firm with fewer than 100 staff. 鈥淚 quite like the size we are now,鈥 Fryer admits. 

But he recognises that things will keep growing. 鈥淲e have some incredibly talented and ambitious people.鈥