The challenges and opportunities presented by the quest for net zero took centre stage as our 好色先生TV the Future Commission鈥檚 regional roundtable tour headed to Newcastle
鈥淔or our region, carbon reduction is much more within reach than in many others, because the North-east is so well connected as an industry. We all know each other, supply chains are never, ever too far away and the North-east region鈥檚 labour is all very local,鈥 said Darush Dodds, director of corporate services and social value, Esh Group. 鈥淭o do a job here is quite cheap. So, I think all of that鈥檚 a massive plus for our region when it comes to working towards net zero.鈥
Dodds was speaking at the 好色先生TV the Future Commission鈥檚 second regional roundtable, which last month took place in Newcastle and focused on the challenges and opportunities of achieving net zero in the North-east of England.
Since the start of the year the 好色先生TV the Future Commission initiative has been working to discover solutions and initiatives to improve the built environment. The project does not focus on one area but instead is divided into eight workstreams focused on different aspects of the industry.
As part of the commission鈥檚 fact-finding work, and in partnership with Constructing Excellence, we are going around the country convening high-level roundtable discussions with experts in different regions to ensure that the commission hears from all corners of the UK.
The first of these saw 好色先生TV gather a group of experts who each had links to the East of England for a chat about skills in a region that some see as living in London鈥檚 shadow, before the commission鈥檚 roadshow headed to Newcastle to hear from those in the North-east.
The North-east panel (listed below), chaired by 好色先生TV鈥檚 editorial director Chlo毛 McCulloch, was made up of construction leaders, all of whom have strong connections to the region and bring with them a high level of local knowledge and experience.
Attendees
- Chair: Chlo毛 McCulloch, editorial director, Assemble Media Group
- Catriona Lingwood, chief executive, Constructing Excellence North East
- Joanne Murray, executive consultant, Gleeds
- Simon Tolson, senior partner, Fenwick Elliott
- Carol Cairns, head of project management office, Northumbrian Water Group
- Jessica Cook, net zero programme manager, North of Tyne Combined Authority
- Darush Dodds, director of corporate services and social value, Esh Group
- Lee Francis, chief executive, Re:gen Group
- Mark Gardham, regional director, Sir Robert McAlpine
- Steven Lynn, operations director, Kier Construction
- Hollie Statham, design manager, Bowmer & Kirkland
A close-knit community
The truth of Dodds鈥 observation about the construction industry in the North-east being a tight knit community was immediately apparent around the table, as everyone knew each other and was on first-name terms. Something the whole panel seemed to agree on was that the region鈥檚 connectedness means it is in a stronger position than others to collaborate on net zero.
Catriona Lingwood, chief executive of Constructing Excellence North East, said that where this can be particularly important is assisting smaller businesses within construction on their net zero journey. 鈥淭o be frank, we need to start helping them or they aren鈥檛 going to get there,鈥 she said. 鈥淎nd if the smaller and medium-sized businesses aren鈥檛 making progress, no matter what the rest of us do it isn鈥檛 going to have any real impact.鈥
But the panel felt this did not necessarily mean the sector was collaborating as efficiently as it could. 鈥淚n general, as a region, everyone needs to be more educated; we need to have better integration of lessons learnt,鈥 said Hollie Statham, design manager at Bowmer & Kirkland. 鈥淭here are lots of brilliant projects, great ideas and approaches out there, but we aren鈥檛 as joined up as we could be to apply wider learnings. There is definitely need to improve there.鈥
On this point, Jessica Cook, net zero programme manager at the North of Tyne Combined Authority, said there needs to be an increased willingness to share when something hasn鈥檛 worked. 鈥淲hile of course it is wonderful to share best practice, it can be even more useful to hear about what hasn鈥檛 worked,鈥 she said. 鈥淭o be fair, we are seeing that happen increasingly, but accelerating that knowledge share is key.鈥
Joanne Murray, executive consultant at Gleeds, added that this collaboration is required in order to educate clients. 鈥淭here is a distinct lack of understanding on what net zero actually is, with many clients,鈥 she says. 鈥淭hey come wanting a net zero project, but when what that entails is presented, and the risks associated, they are often unprepared.鈥
Making sense of the numbers
鈥淕etting the metrics right is absolutely key. You measure it, you鈥檒l correct it and you鈥檒l move it,鈥 said Steven Lynn, operations director at Kier Construction. He pointed out a lack of consistency across the industry when it comes to tracking and measuring both embodied and operational data, making it hard to see how the industry is progressing. He added: 鈥淚n all honesty, we can鈥檛 get anywhere if we aren鈥檛 measuring correctly 鈥 as we don鈥檛 even know where we are starting from.鈥
Cook agreed, saying that a cohesive approach to measurement of carbon usage must be a top priority. 鈥淲e need to all baseline from the same point with the same methodology, otherwise we are comparing apples with oranges and can鈥檛 get a view of the bigger picture.鈥
Dodds said that many tier one or main contractors have fairly good sight of their scope one and two emissions but that scope three was significantly more tricky to track at present due to inconsistency in the supply chain.
Upcoming 好色先生TV the Future Commission events
21 September: West Midlands regional roundtable (by invitation)
27 September: 好色先生TV the Future Conference (open)
The day will include panel debates on net zero, digital transformation and building safety as well as talks from high-profile keynote speakers on future trends and ideas that could transform the sector.
There will also be the chance to feed in your ideas to the commission and to network with other industry professionals keen to share knowledge.
5 October: Yorkshire and the Humber roundtable (by invitation)
25 October: Wales roundtable (by invitation)
What do we do about skills?
鈥淎t a technical level the skills are just simply not there at the moment,鈥 said Mark Gardham, regional director at Sir Robert McAlpine. 鈥淲e are getting graduates or apprentices that aren鈥檛 being taught the skills they need, so what we as an industry need to do is help change that.鈥
Simon Tolson, senior partner at Fenwick Elliott, drew a comparison with building safety competency and the need for new and improved skill sets post Grenfell. 鈥淭here is currently a sharp focus on the need for green skills, as there has been for building safety competency,鈥 he said. 鈥漈here is a need to re-educate people who missed out on that training.There needs to be upskilling; there are new technologies, new materials and new skills, all of which are going to have to be learnt.鈥
Lee Francis, chief executive of Re:gen Group, which specialises in the retrofit and regeneration of social housing, concurred, saying that when it became a requirement for those working on social housing decarbonisation fund projects to have PAS 2030 certifications for energy efficiency installations, the skills shortfall was never clearer. There were certain specialities where there was no one in the region appropriately qualified to carry out work, he noted, adding that 鈥渃olleges are now trying to roll out these courses [which teach retrofit skills] without industry knowledge because the government is throwing money at them鈥 but that cannot be the path forward.
But as both Dodds and Francis pointed out, there are new retrofit specific courses (see the panel ideas summary section) on which they have been working with local colleges, designed to provide the skills the region needs most.
The solutions
As the roundtable approached its end after an hour and a half of vigorous debate, the panel were asked to come out with proposal for the 好色先生TV the Future Commission on how to further net zero in their region. Responses (see below) included suggestions around encouraging and enabling innovation, how to enable change within the construction supply chain, and what is needed to ensure we are all moving in the same direction.
The key takeaways for the commission from the North-east of England roundtable were around the importance of the industry collaborating and sharing best practice, a focus on collecting and sharing the right data, and aligning aims across all parts of the sector, including training providers.
Ideas from the panel
- Upskilling the supply chain
Kier鈥檚 Steven Lynn highlighted a need for main contractors to come together to bring people within the supply up to the standards required to deliver net zero, and pointed out that the North-east is primed for this, given it is a 鈥渃lose-knit team鈥 that share the supply chain. He said this approach is crucial if firms are to collate the right data and accurately track where materials have come from. - Improving carbon literacy
Jessica Cook of the North of Tyne Combined Authority pointed out the need for a general understanding of all things relating to net zero. She said it is vital that everyone is clear about what we are trying to achieve and also that net zero objectives are being measured consistently. One of the best ways this can be done, said Cook, is by sharing best practice across the sector. - Procurement changes 鈥 using a stick to create real change
Esh Group鈥檚 Darush Dodds acknowlged a need for the sector鈥檚 leaders to encourage, educate and support the supply chain, but said this can only go so far. 鈥淭he only way we are going to make real progress in the end is a stick in procurement,鈥 he argued, pointing out that 69% of Esh Group鈥檚 carbon emissions come from within the supply chain. 鈥淭here is going to come a time where we are going to have to say, 鈥業f you want to work for us you must be achieving (a), (b) and (c) or if you aren鈥檛 we won鈥檛 be working with you any more鈥.鈥 Fenwick Elliott鈥檚 Simon Tolson also said procurement reform would best enable a consistency of approach through the supply chain. - Clients driving the agenda and cultural shift
As a client, Northumbrian Water鈥檚 Carol Cairns believes that is where the agenda and cultural shift must come from. She said clients have a responsibility to 鈥渞each for the stars鈥 when it comes to net zero as it is the only thing that will enable the rest of the industry to follow suit, and that while ambitious aims might not always be met, they are needed to drive innovation and investment in the pursuit of sustainability goals. - Integration of required industry skills with education institutions
Lee Francis of Re:gen pointed out that a big issue, particularly in the North-east, is the challenge of accessing the appropriate skills for net zero projects, particularly in residential retrofit. Both Francis and Dodds have been heavily involved in the development of five retrofit-specific qualifications across seven colleges in the region which aim to have their first intake from September. Such initiatives are vital, said Francis, as without more operatives having the appropriate skillsets, net zero projects will not be achievable. - Clarity from BRE around the approval of new products and materials to support net zero
Sir Robert McAlpine鈥檚 Mark Gardham said another issue is the barriers for SME or start-up businesses looking to develop products and materials to support net zero. A lack of clarity around cost and process for products to be certified by BRE has seen a number of innovations from smaller firms cast aside, he said, adding that the only way to overcome this is through reform at BRE aimed at creating support through the testing process.
The 好色先生TV the Future Commission
The 好色先生TV the Future Commission is a year-long project, launched to mark 好色先生TV鈥檚 180th anniversary, to assess potential solutions and radical new ways of thinking to improve the built environment, with thanks to our national headline sponsors Fenwick Elliott and Gleeds.
The major project鈥檚 work will be guided by a panel of 19 major figures who have signed up to help guide the commission鈥檚 work culminatuing culminate in a report published at the end of the year.
The commissioner include figures from the world of contracting, housing development, architecture, policy-making, skills, design, place-making, infrastructure, consultancy and legal.
The commissioners include Katy Dowding, executive vice president at Skanska, Richard Steer, chair of Gleeds, Lara Oyedele, president of the Chartered Institute of Housing, Mark Wild, former boss of Crossrail and chief executive of SGN and Simon Tolson, senior partner at Fenwick Elliott. See the full list here.
The project is looking at proposals for change in eight areas:
- Education and skills
- Housing and planning
- Energy and net zero
- Infrastructure
- 好色先生TV safety
- Project delivery and digital
- Workplace culture and leadership
- Creating communities
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>> Click here for more about the project and the commissioners
好色先生TV the Future is also undertaking a countrywide tour of roundtable discussions with experts around the regions as part of a consultation programme in partnership with the regional arms of industry body Constructing Excellence. There is also a young person鈥檚 advisory panel.
We are inviting readers to submit ideas for how to improve the built environment which will form part of our Ideas Hub coming soon.
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